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They Say Jesus Says

by: winter rabbit

Thu Oct 27, 2011 at 08:17:51 AM PDT

Dr. Robert Jeffress: "Romans Chapter 13 gives government the power of the sword..."

Bill Mahr: "Why is his word (Paul) equal to the man himself (Jesus)?"

Dr. Robert Jeffress: "Because it's in the same book".

(7:30 and after)
Dr. Robert Jeffress a Featured Guest on HBO's "Real Time with Bill Maher" (10/14/11)
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 Same thing different century.

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In 1862, President Abraham Lincoln ordered the execution, by hanging, of 38 Dakota Sioux prisoners in Mankato, Minnesota. Most of those executed were holy men or political leaders of their camps. None of them were responsible for committing the crimes they were accused of. Coined as the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History. (Brown, Dee. BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE. New York: Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970. pp. 59-61)

I also remembered what a good Christian man President Abraham Lincoln was.

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"...I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord's side." The Inner Life of Abraham Lincoln: Six Months at the White House by Francis B. Carpenter (Lincoln, Nebraska, University of Nebraska Press, 1995), p. 282. Also, Recollections of Abraham Lincoln by Ward Hill Lamon (Lincoln, Nebraska, University of Nebraska Press, 1994), p. 91.

The last thing I saw before my muse woke up again was a sign on the side of the road that said this.

John 14:6

New International Version (NIV)

6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

I caught myself thinking "They say, that Jesus says,  'I am the way and the truth and the life.' But what they mean is, 'I am the only way, the only truth and the only  life.' Furthermore, it doesn't matter if you accept it, because we will steal from you or kill you as the converted or the damned."    

Indeed.

Red Jacket Defends Native American Religion, 1805

 Brother, continue to listen. You say you are sent to instruct us how to worship the Great Spirit agreeably to his mind, and if we do not take hold of the religion which you white people teach, we shall be unhappy hereafter. You say that you are right, and we are lost; how do we know this to be true? We understand that your religion is written in a book; if it was intended for us as well as you, why has not the Great Spirit given it to us, and not only to us, but why did he not give to our forefathers the knowledge of that book, with the means of understanding it rightly? We only know what you tell us about it. How shall we know when to believe, being so often deceived by the white people?

To conclude, I've thought and thought for years about how to halt the Religious Right. I can only say to tell others who will listen and the ones in power. I think it's difficult to get people to listen for the same reason it's hard to get people to listen about land theft and genocide against the First Nations - it may involve coming to grips with uncomfortable family beliefs and history. Nonetheless, the Christian fundamentalists are in a spiritual war with the devil, and like "Romans Chapter 13 gives government the power of the sword" despite the words of "The man" himself, this is also "In the same book."

Exodus 15:3-7

The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name. Pharaoh's chariots and his army he has hurled into the sea. The best of Pharaoh's officers are drowned in the Red Sea. The deep waters have covered them; they sank to the depths like a stone. Your right hand, O LORD, was majestic in power. Your right hand, O LORD, shattered the enemy. In the greatness of your majesty you threw down those who opposed you. You unleashed your burning anger; it consumed them like stubble.